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Executive Committee, US President-elect’s Transition Team - Anthony Scaramucci
The Interview
Nov 25, 2016

What are Team Trump’s priorities for the United States? Wherever you live in the world, the election of Donald Trump as America's next President matters. The next leader of the world's most powerful nation promises to take the US, and by extension global politics and economics, in a very different direction. Stephen Sackur speaks to Anthony Scaramucci - a New York hedge fund boss, a Trump ally, and right now a member of the President-elect’s transition team.

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Executive Committee, US President-elect’s Transition Team - Anthony Scaramucci

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