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BBC OS Conversations: Palestinian losses
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Nov 4, 2023

The fighting and funerals in the Israel and Hamas war are constant. Thousands have been killed.

The number of fatalities don’t tell the real stories though. In recent days, the OS team has been reaching out to people on both sides who have lost loved ones in the war; inviting them to tell the stories of those killed.

Next week’s programme will feature Israeli families. This edition, hosted by James Reynolds, is a conversation with two Palestinians who now live in Scotland and Turkey.

Yousef Almqayyad in Istanbul, had to have a heartbreaking discussion with his seven-year-old daughter about the deaths in his family.

“Your grandfather, your grandmother, your uncles and aunts and your cousins, right now are in heaven, in a good place,” he said. “Better than Gaza, better than Turkey, better than any place in this world. I told her they are waiting for us.”

Dr Ibrahim Khadra also shares his final conversation with a member of his family in Gaza, who said: “If we’ll survive, we’ll pray to God and if I’ll die just pray for me.”

“It was our last call,” said Dr Khadra.

A co-production between the BBC OS team and Boffin Media.

(Photo: Yousef Almqayyad with his parents Yaser and Inshirah)

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